he is getting white spots and reddish ones to white foam around his mouth and he sits on his rock and looks up with his mouth open gasping 4 air he wont eat out of my hand any more and it seem like he is weak please please please someone tell me whats wrong
Answers:
You will need to find a Reptile Vet to check out your pet. Sounds bad.
Yeah it doesn't sound good at all..maybe from the diet over a period of time or from a dacteria that he got..take it to a vet that knows what they are doing
depending on the type of turtle you have (aquatic or land) try and take itoutside in the fresh sunlight and fresh air. if aquatic or land actually try soaking in luke warm, clean fresh water in the sun for a few minutes. water relaxes as well as hydrates the animal when they are submerged in it. try placing the food down instead of hand feeding. clean the cage and sanitize to make sure no parasites are in there. if that still does not work then take to the vet :)
don know need to take him to a vet
This is blunt, but honestly that's bad and your turtle will die if you don't get it to a vet. Be sure you find a good vet that knows about turtles. It will most likely need antibiotics.
Sounds like mouth rot (Ulcerative or necrotic stomatitus). This is a tricky condition that is difficult for most keepers to deal with on their own.
Check out these links for info:
http://www.triciaswaterdragon.com/mouthr.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?.
http://redearslider.com/index_health_3.h.
Monday, May 24, 2010
I think my corn snake tail is going to fall off is it bad or painful, will it grow back?
I bought it last week and it shed the next night. I noticed there was skin still there and I believe there is old skin from when it was at the store. I have tried everything from soaking, olive oil and rubbing it with a towel. Now I think it is to late to save it. I'm so very sad that it is happening but I think it is to late to save it. I just don't want it to hurt or get infected, any suggestions?
Answers:
If it is just the tip then the snake will do fine with out it. As for if it is painfull I would not know I have never asked a snake if it hurts. You can also try a product called snake oil sold at most pet stores. You rub this in to the animal once a day for several days and that should help. You can also give a good oiling when you notice that your snake is getting ready to shed next time to help with this. Also if Humidity is too low there will be problems. Try spraying the snake and its tank with warm water daily around shed times. You do not want it wet in there just a light misting to add humidity. If you could find a pair of fine point tweezers you might be able to slip one side under the stuck skin and work it lose that way but this is trick and if your snake does not like it you could get bit. Just watch him close and if you are worried or something does not look right to you take him the vet. If it is to the point where his tail is going to fall off this has been a problem from long before you bought him. You may be able to go back to the pet store and maybe if they are decent they will help you remove the shed or replace your snake it takes many sheds to build up to the point of losing tails not just one or two.. Good luck to you
If the tail actually falls off, it should not hurt the snake. Its actually good because it will not spread the infection through the whole snake. Do you have a local vet or specialist. If it does start to look infected, take it to the vet. if not, just let nature take its course and heal itself. Good luck, I hope he is ok.
The shed should be complete. If it is too dry it may have trouble shedding (make sure the humidity is in the correct range) If the skin is left on the tail, the tail will die and fall off and it wont grow back. The skin that stays on the tip of the tail slowly constricts the end of the tail as it grows, which causes it to die and fall off.
There really isnt any cause for concern the snake will be fine without the end of its tail.
Take it to a reptile vet. If it loses that piece of tail, it will not grow back.
take it to the VET
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If it is just the tip then the snake will do fine with out it. As for if it is painfull I would not know I have never asked a snake if it hurts. You can also try a product called snake oil sold at most pet stores. You rub this in to the animal once a day for several days and that should help. You can also give a good oiling when you notice that your snake is getting ready to shed next time to help with this. Also if Humidity is too low there will be problems. Try spraying the snake and its tank with warm water daily around shed times. You do not want it wet in there just a light misting to add humidity. If you could find a pair of fine point tweezers you might be able to slip one side under the stuck skin and work it lose that way but this is trick and if your snake does not like it you could get bit. Just watch him close and if you are worried or something does not look right to you take him the vet. If it is to the point where his tail is going to fall off this has been a problem from long before you bought him. You may be able to go back to the pet store and maybe if they are decent they will help you remove the shed or replace your snake it takes many sheds to build up to the point of losing tails not just one or two.. Good luck to you
If the tail actually falls off, it should not hurt the snake. Its actually good because it will not spread the infection through the whole snake. Do you have a local vet or specialist. If it does start to look infected, take it to the vet. if not, just let nature take its course and heal itself. Good luck, I hope he is ok.
The shed should be complete. If it is too dry it may have trouble shedding (make sure the humidity is in the correct range) If the skin is left on the tail, the tail will die and fall off and it wont grow back. The skin that stays on the tip of the tail slowly constricts the end of the tail as it grows, which causes it to die and fall off.
There really isnt any cause for concern the snake will be fine without the end of its tail.
Take it to a reptile vet. If it loses that piece of tail, it will not grow back.
take it to the VET
I think my baby corn snake is terrified of me.?
What should i do? Every time i pick him up he goes mad! This morning he threw himself on the floor! Is it a good idea to handle him daily when he's going mad everytime?
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You should handle your new corn on a regular basis. It's scared of you in the sense that it's survival instincts tell it (and all newborns) to hide. It has no idea that you mean it no harm and must come to realize that your touch isn't life threatening. It will take time, so be patient and very gentle. Don't squeeze the snake if it feels like it's slipping thru your fingers, but place your other hand in front for it to crawl to. Also, don't hold the snake while you're standing. Sit down to reduce the distance to the floor in case the baby does happen to fall. While you're
sitting, the snake will feel much more secure in your lap rather than dangling 3ft off the floor while you're standing.
Put it on a plane!
how would you feel if a giant picked you up everyday and was oh my pretty human..let me stroke you there..wouldnt you get pissed off?by the way..i would * myself by the snake.
Most baby snakes are so full of energy and don't want to be handled much. Older snakes have less energy and just tolerate being picked up. It's a good idea to keep handling your baby snake once in a while though so it gets used to you. Just don't overdo it to where the snake ends up getting stressed though. Maybe a few minutes every three days or so would be enough. =)
i am terrified of you too
My ex husband used to carry our snakes around in his shirt pocket and hold them and just let them be busy until they quieted down and slept. Just hold the snake quietly and don't be hyper or nervous or anything. It takes time to hand tame a snake and it is best to get used to each other now rather than when it is bigger and has stronger jaws and slightly larger teeth. Now if it gets mad and bites then it won't even break the skin. Just don't stress it too much and give it plenty of quiet time as well.
Have fun with your new pet. They are lots of fun.
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You should handle your new corn on a regular basis. It's scared of you in the sense that it's survival instincts tell it (and all newborns) to hide. It has no idea that you mean it no harm and must come to realize that your touch isn't life threatening. It will take time, so be patient and very gentle. Don't squeeze the snake if it feels like it's slipping thru your fingers, but place your other hand in front for it to crawl to. Also, don't hold the snake while you're standing. Sit down to reduce the distance to the floor in case the baby does happen to fall. While you're
sitting, the snake will feel much more secure in your lap rather than dangling 3ft off the floor while you're standing.
Put it on a plane!
how would you feel if a giant picked you up everyday and was oh my pretty human..let me stroke you there..wouldnt you get pissed off?by the way..i would * myself by the snake.
Most baby snakes are so full of energy and don't want to be handled much. Older snakes have less energy and just tolerate being picked up. It's a good idea to keep handling your baby snake once in a while though so it gets used to you. Just don't overdo it to where the snake ends up getting stressed though. Maybe a few minutes every three days or so would be enough. =)
i am terrified of you too
My ex husband used to carry our snakes around in his shirt pocket and hold them and just let them be busy until they quieted down and slept. Just hold the snake quietly and don't be hyper or nervous or anything. It takes time to hand tame a snake and it is best to get used to each other now rather than when it is bigger and has stronger jaws and slightly larger teeth. Now if it gets mad and bites then it won't even break the skin. Just don't stress it too much and give it plenty of quiet time as well.
Have fun with your new pet. They are lots of fun.
i think i have a sick toad please help!?
ok i have a little garden in my front yard with a frog pond and frog huts and plants any way if i leave a small file of cat food by my front door 45 seconds later ull see like 20 toads eating it. they all live in the garden but theres this one that has red stuff stuck 2 its but. no its not poop. its like a pinkish color and i always see him in my garden and when i leave out the cat food. what the hell is wrong with it. please i dont want it 2 die should i take it 2 a vet and if i do. do they take toads??
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No no no!
Don't touch it!
Don't try wiping it!
And for the love of g,',d, don't lick it.
It sounds like she might be carrying her babies on her back. Some species do that. don't touch her until you know! Identify the type of toad, their means of reproduction, and known vulnerabilities to diseases. You should be able to get answers from the InterNet (narrow your search quickly with an image search).
Think about it. you have a frog paradise, with habitat and FOOD! Lots of it! Animals think about safety, food, and mating. I think that you should leave her alone, and see if you don't get some babies, soon.
If you are really worried, you can remove her from the others in case it's contagious - and then wash your hands!
Mostly, just wait and watch to see what happens.
just vist a vet and they hopefully will not chage you unless it really is sick. but first just wipe it off ( if possible ) and see what it is if you can
have you tried licking it?
Just call your local animal control!
this is what i think
1. its a frog yuck
2 . the frog is a part of nature thats where he lives i think that if you take him out of nature that might be harder for him to survive even if he does have a problem
it probably is eggs.
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No no no!
Don't touch it!
Don't try wiping it!
And for the love of g,',d, don't lick it.
It sounds like she might be carrying her babies on her back. Some species do that. don't touch her until you know! Identify the type of toad, their means of reproduction, and known vulnerabilities to diseases. You should be able to get answers from the InterNet (narrow your search quickly with an image search).
Think about it. you have a frog paradise, with habitat and FOOD! Lots of it! Animals think about safety, food, and mating. I think that you should leave her alone, and see if you don't get some babies, soon.
If you are really worried, you can remove her from the others in case it's contagious - and then wash your hands!
Mostly, just wait and watch to see what happens.
just vist a vet and they hopefully will not chage you unless it really is sick. but first just wipe it off ( if possible ) and see what it is if you can
have you tried licking it?
Just call your local animal control!
this is what i think
1. its a frog yuck
2 . the frog is a part of nature thats where he lives i think that if you take him out of nature that might be harder for him to survive even if he does have a problem
it probably is eggs.
I smell really bad and my friends dont like me anymore. What should I do?
I need 2 know what 2 do!
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Take a shower and wash your clothes! Duh! Clean your house,and get rid of any felines in your house!!
Uh. Take a bath??
Try having a bath lol
try hot water, soap and a scrub brush !!
lilac blosoms have a nice smell when crushed. try puting some in the bath next time you take a bath
Try showering daily. If that dosen't work get in to see a doctor, sometimes body oder can be a result of a medical condition.
How is this a reptile question? Any way, good hygiene helps.so bathe
takes baths, make sure your bathroom is clean. ask the doctor if this doesn't stop. use deodorant!
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Take a shower and wash your clothes! Duh! Clean your house,and get rid of any felines in your house!!
Uh. Take a bath??
Try having a bath lol
try hot water, soap and a scrub brush !!
lilac blosoms have a nice smell when crushed. try puting some in the bath next time you take a bath
Try showering daily. If that dosen't work get in to see a doctor, sometimes body oder can be a result of a medical condition.
How is this a reptile question? Any way, good hygiene helps.so bathe
takes baths, make sure your bathroom is clean. ask the doctor if this doesn't stop. use deodorant!
I should have asked if anyone else was frustrated?
Hi
Ok I asked who thinks there are too many out here asking etc.. a few minutes ago.. so far great response.
First.. I am a retired Trauma Nurse, I also have a Zoology degree, work in Wildlife rescue, conservation and manage urban waterfowl
I am obtaining a wildlife Vet degree as well.
I understand how important it is for folks who do not know to have a place to go ask and for folks who do know to take a sec and answer.. I guess I am only frustrated in what I read so much of.. and you cant answer them all and you never heaer back from most as to the outcome of what ended up happening.
My question should have been. anyone else frustrated? I certainly do not want people not coming out asking and just leaving an animal suffer ..
No offesne was meant at all.. just looking for others who are frustrated is all!
:0)
Thanks
Wismom
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The thing that gets to me is how many people can get a animal and know absolutely nothing about it. If people would just google the name of the reptile they keep a whole lot of information usually will come up and answer all of there questions.. Even better would be doing that BEFORE you get the animal.
the thing that irritates me about this forum is that people will answer questions that they know nothing about just to get two points.. Every single question asked on here has some very FALSE information given to it. How is anyone to know who to actually believe?
Boy don't I know what you mean. The thing that frustrates me more than anything is the people who come on asking questions about breeding dogs. If you don't know these kinds of things (simple things I knew before I knew how to read!) then you shouldn't be bringing new life into this world. It really ticks me off because here they are ruining lives that haven't even had a chance yet by not giving them a good start. I really wish that we could impose some sort of law that would make it so people can't breed unless they have champion dogs. I realize though that even with that then you need somebody to police it and so on and so forth. I wish that it was a matter of "common sense" but I think we should simply refer to this as "sense" because it's certainly not common anymore. I am in dog rescue and I also show Labradors so I see way more of this stuff than some of the other people who will read this do. Just a way of defense saying I know that of which I speak. My folks raise and show Chis, and have been doing so as long as I can remember (20 some years). They had to start out just like everyone else, without information and the like, but if you take the time to read books you can find all the information necessary to properly care for and breed dogs. If you won't take the time to do that, then you shouldn't breeding PERIOD.
Your not alone. I am sick of people posting questions that if they had half a brain they would know to contact a vet instead of posting life threating illnesses on here.
Hari Raya is around the corner and I am very, very happy and not frustrated. Why are you looking for frustrated people when you should be looking for positive thinking people.
Ok I asked who thinks there are too many out here asking etc.. a few minutes ago.. so far great response.
First.. I am a retired Trauma Nurse, I also have a Zoology degree, work in Wildlife rescue, conservation and manage urban waterfowl
I am obtaining a wildlife Vet degree as well.
I understand how important it is for folks who do not know to have a place to go ask and for folks who do know to take a sec and answer.. I guess I am only frustrated in what I read so much of.. and you cant answer them all and you never heaer back from most as to the outcome of what ended up happening.
My question should have been. anyone else frustrated? I certainly do not want people not coming out asking and just leaving an animal suffer ..
No offesne was meant at all.. just looking for others who are frustrated is all!
:0)
Thanks
Wismom
Answers:
The thing that gets to me is how many people can get a animal and know absolutely nothing about it. If people would just google the name of the reptile they keep a whole lot of information usually will come up and answer all of there questions.. Even better would be doing that BEFORE you get the animal.
the thing that irritates me about this forum is that people will answer questions that they know nothing about just to get two points.. Every single question asked on here has some very FALSE information given to it. How is anyone to know who to actually believe?
Boy don't I know what you mean. The thing that frustrates me more than anything is the people who come on asking questions about breeding dogs. If you don't know these kinds of things (simple things I knew before I knew how to read!) then you shouldn't be bringing new life into this world. It really ticks me off because here they are ruining lives that haven't even had a chance yet by not giving them a good start. I really wish that we could impose some sort of law that would make it so people can't breed unless they have champion dogs. I realize though that even with that then you need somebody to police it and so on and so forth. I wish that it was a matter of "common sense" but I think we should simply refer to this as "sense" because it's certainly not common anymore. I am in dog rescue and I also show Labradors so I see way more of this stuff than some of the other people who will read this do. Just a way of defense saying I know that of which I speak. My folks raise and show Chis, and have been doing so as long as I can remember (20 some years). They had to start out just like everyone else, without information and the like, but if you take the time to read books you can find all the information necessary to properly care for and breed dogs. If you won't take the time to do that, then you shouldn't breeding PERIOD.
Your not alone. I am sick of people posting questions that if they had half a brain they would know to contact a vet instead of posting life threating illnesses on here.
Hari Raya is around the corner and I am very, very happy and not frustrated. Why are you looking for frustrated people when you should be looking for positive thinking people.
I see people who have turtles for pets and their housing seems too small. What is a turtle supposed to have ?
I would like to know the size of the tank needed, does it need rocks to get up on, and how often should you clean the water and what kind of water should you use. also what do they eat and how often. thanks to all who respond.
Answers:
Tanks:
It is recommended that you have alt least 10 gallons of swimming water per inch of turtle shell. Thus, a 3" turtle should be in a 50 gallon or so tank with about 30 gallons of water in it. Most keepers use large plastic (Rubbermaid, Sterilite, etc.) tubs instead of heavier, more expensive glass tanks.
Some people say that the water should not be too deep because if the turtle gets trapped, it will drown. Instead, your cage should just be designed so turtles cannot get trapped! On the other hand, in general, it is better for the tank to be wide than it is for it to be deep.
The tank water should be heated to 75-80, and filtered heavily- about twice as much filtration as a fish tank the same size would use.
Basking Sites:
Your turtles need to get out of the water in a way that is safe, does not scrape them badly, and lets them feel comfortable. Most pond turtles prefer to be sunning over water than on a beach so they can just drop back in the water when threatened.
You can acomplish this with a pile of rocks, driftwood, rafts, platforms attached to the tank, etc. Avoid oily or treated wood (including redwood or cedar). You should usually try to provide several basking options- and warm at least some of the sites to about 90.
Cleaning:
With good filtration, you won't have to clean the tank as often, but you should do a partial water change regularly- often enough to prevent the usual 'turtle tank' smell. It is best to vacumn the bottom gunk out to do the water change. Every so often, you'll have to tear the tank down, scrub it, and start over no matter what.
Water:
If you can drink it, you can use it in the turtle tank without treatment.
Diet:
Beginners should stick to high-quality turtle pellets, supplemented with live 'fish food'- small fish, worms, etc.
Feed a baby turtle daily, a young turtle every other day, and an adult ever three days. A serving is about the same size as their head (or a bit more).
You can learn more at the sites below:
turtles move like 2 hundred feet in a year. I dont think they mind a small tank. throw some rocks and grass and maybe a water spot/small pond and they are straight.
Depends on the turtle. Is it salt or freshwater? What size is it?
What kind of turtle is it? A water turtle, land turtle, box turtle what? A little more information would help you in finding the correct response.
Turtles are wild animals they should live in their natural habitat or at least a back yard - garden (well enclosed). I suppose you don't mean tortoise or terrapines, who live in water?
Freedom.
well i had two red-eared turtles and they grow pretty fast, they also dirty the water really fast so i had them in a 10-gallon tank with a filter and that was a great place for them, i had big rocks for them to get up on, none of that small gravel (it goes into their shell) they have to have warm water (depending on the types) they should have the food at the pet store. it is very important for them to be able to get out of the water for a bit. they should have filtered water, always clean
go get you a good turtle book at the pet shop that will answer all your questions and show different ideas of set ups for your turtle
and what to feed it and everything else
I have 2 Red Eared Sliders
I keep them in a large kiddie pool. It has an island in the center with their light hanging from the ceiling.
Mine are in a large enclosure because I believe when you keep an animal in captivity you should give them plenty of space to move around. No matter how inactive you think they are.
Many people tell themselves oh they don't move around allot so I will put them in this tiny cage and they will be happy. No they have no choice but to sit in one spot because even if they wanted to move around they couldn't.
It depends first on the type of turtle. For instance RES (red eared sliders) have to come out to bask. I have a 75 gallon for my full grown female. To be honest it is almost too small. The size of tank a RES needs though is at minium 75 gallons and thats for one turtle. You have to use a filter that is capable of twice the amount of water in the tank. I clean my tank about every 10 days. You have to clean it even if it looks clear. You also don't want to use any comercial cleaners in it as this can kill the bacteria and harm your turtle. The bacteria in the tank is good for the water and the turtle. I simply wipe down the sides were algie has started forming with a damp paper towel. As far as food I asked my vet and again this depends on the turtle but an RES can be feed every other day but only once and the diet must be varied .Here is a list dark green veggies such a collards, mustard greens or romaine lettuce. Turtle pellets, crickets, feeder fish and meal worms or earth worms are good. The proper lighting must be provided as well a full spectrum basking light is reguired above the basking area. This is so the turtle can get out and dry their shell off. It prevents diseases such as shell rot. The second type of lighting needed is UVB this is essential. This light helps the turtle digest thier food. You also need a water heater and thermometers to monitor the temp in the basking area and the water. Basking area should be around 80 degrees and the water between 70-80 degrees. I think that is about it . Turtles are very expensive pets I am up to about a thousand dollars now and have only had mine two years. I had no idea what I was getting when someone gave her to me. The best thing to do is buy big now so you don't have to upgrade later. You will save money in the long run. They are worth it in the long run.
Answers:
Tanks:
It is recommended that you have alt least 10 gallons of swimming water per inch of turtle shell. Thus, a 3" turtle should be in a 50 gallon or so tank with about 30 gallons of water in it. Most keepers use large plastic (Rubbermaid, Sterilite, etc.) tubs instead of heavier, more expensive glass tanks.
Some people say that the water should not be too deep because if the turtle gets trapped, it will drown. Instead, your cage should just be designed so turtles cannot get trapped! On the other hand, in general, it is better for the tank to be wide than it is for it to be deep.
The tank water should be heated to 75-80, and filtered heavily- about twice as much filtration as a fish tank the same size would use.
Basking Sites:
Your turtles need to get out of the water in a way that is safe, does not scrape them badly, and lets them feel comfortable. Most pond turtles prefer to be sunning over water than on a beach so they can just drop back in the water when threatened.
You can acomplish this with a pile of rocks, driftwood, rafts, platforms attached to the tank, etc. Avoid oily or treated wood (including redwood or cedar). You should usually try to provide several basking options- and warm at least some of the sites to about 90.
Cleaning:
With good filtration, you won't have to clean the tank as often, but you should do a partial water change regularly- often enough to prevent the usual 'turtle tank' smell. It is best to vacumn the bottom gunk out to do the water change. Every so often, you'll have to tear the tank down, scrub it, and start over no matter what.
Water:
If you can drink it, you can use it in the turtle tank without treatment.
Diet:
Beginners should stick to high-quality turtle pellets, supplemented with live 'fish food'- small fish, worms, etc.
Feed a baby turtle daily, a young turtle every other day, and an adult ever three days. A serving is about the same size as their head (or a bit more).
You can learn more at the sites below:
turtles move like 2 hundred feet in a year. I dont think they mind a small tank. throw some rocks and grass and maybe a water spot/small pond and they are straight.
Depends on the turtle. Is it salt or freshwater? What size is it?
What kind of turtle is it? A water turtle, land turtle, box turtle what? A little more information would help you in finding the correct response.
Turtles are wild animals they should live in their natural habitat or at least a back yard - garden (well enclosed). I suppose you don't mean tortoise or terrapines, who live in water?
Freedom.
well i had two red-eared turtles and they grow pretty fast, they also dirty the water really fast so i had them in a 10-gallon tank with a filter and that was a great place for them, i had big rocks for them to get up on, none of that small gravel (it goes into their shell) they have to have warm water (depending on the types) they should have the food at the pet store. it is very important for them to be able to get out of the water for a bit. they should have filtered water, always clean
go get you a good turtle book at the pet shop that will answer all your questions and show different ideas of set ups for your turtle
and what to feed it and everything else
I have 2 Red Eared Sliders
I keep them in a large kiddie pool. It has an island in the center with their light hanging from the ceiling.
Mine are in a large enclosure because I believe when you keep an animal in captivity you should give them plenty of space to move around. No matter how inactive you think they are.
Many people tell themselves oh they don't move around allot so I will put them in this tiny cage and they will be happy. No they have no choice but to sit in one spot because even if they wanted to move around they couldn't.
It depends first on the type of turtle. For instance RES (red eared sliders) have to come out to bask. I have a 75 gallon for my full grown female. To be honest it is almost too small. The size of tank a RES needs though is at minium 75 gallons and thats for one turtle. You have to use a filter that is capable of twice the amount of water in the tank. I clean my tank about every 10 days. You have to clean it even if it looks clear. You also don't want to use any comercial cleaners in it as this can kill the bacteria and harm your turtle. The bacteria in the tank is good for the water and the turtle. I simply wipe down the sides were algie has started forming with a damp paper towel. As far as food I asked my vet and again this depends on the turtle but an RES can be feed every other day but only once and the diet must be varied .Here is a list dark green veggies such a collards, mustard greens or romaine lettuce. Turtle pellets, crickets, feeder fish and meal worms or earth worms are good. The proper lighting must be provided as well a full spectrum basking light is reguired above the basking area. This is so the turtle can get out and dry their shell off. It prevents diseases such as shell rot. The second type of lighting needed is UVB this is essential. This light helps the turtle digest thier food. You also need a water heater and thermometers to monitor the temp in the basking area and the water. Basking area should be around 80 degrees and the water between 70-80 degrees. I think that is about it . Turtles are very expensive pets I am up to about a thousand dollars now and have only had mine two years. I had no idea what I was getting when someone gave her to me. The best thing to do is buy big now so you don't have to upgrade later. You will save money in the long run. They are worth it in the long run.
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